70 Responses to “22 Things to Teach your Son about Women (or Not)”

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  1. Verbal

    “What words of wisdom do the men reading this wish your parents had taught you about women when you were a child?”

    Watch carefully how she interacts with parents and siblings, and to a lesser extent, how she interacts with her friends.

    Does she treat a sister with contempt? Is she continuously telling a friend how she should be running her life? Does she get into shouting matches with a parent?

    Because if you stay with her long enough, the way she treats her family will be the way she treats you.

    • never again

      “Watch carefully how she interacts with parents and siblings, and to a lesser extent, how she interacts with her friends.”

      About 3 months before we married, her mother came to visit. There was a major screwup in logistics because her mother had been visiting her (equally NPD) sister, and the sister didn’t feel in necessary to honour the arrangments we made. So, we ended up picking Mum from the bus station at midnight.

      My soon-to-be-wife was angry at the manipulations of her sister, and that her mother had gone along with it. They started arguing in the car, when suddenly, my STBW turned to her mother with a look of pure evil and said “You’re a f*cking liar!!” :0

      Later, I told her that I was embarrased and shocked at her behaviour, and told her if she ever spoke to me like that, I’d leave her in a second. This was before I married her, so I still had my stones. Over time, she managed to gently chip away my resolve, so that I did lose my stones, and that’s when the treatment was transferred to me. She never spoke to me in exactly that way, but sometimes I wish she would have. Better to have the contempt in the open, than the subtle emasculation I underwent.

  2. Verbal

    Regarding point #2, maybe she was referring to fellatio. Actually, who the fuck knows what she is talking about?

  3. typhonblue

    “There are no depths; just superficial layers of inconsistencies, self-serving BS, half-truths and contradictions. Mystery solved.”

    This is a good point. Intelligent, fair-minded self-aware women aren’t mysterious; psychotic women are mysterious.

    And they’re not really mysterious so much as insane.

  4. kiwihelen

    “What words of wisdedom do (wo)men reading this wish your parents had taught you about (wo)men when you were a child?”

    Healthy people take responsibility for their own emotional states.

  5. TheGirlInside

    (applies to both sexes): When someone warns you about who they are early in a relationship (i.e.”I don’t know how to treat [gender] very well,” or “You are too good for me; I don’t deserve you,” etc.) BELIEVE THEM. Because they will spend the rest of the relationship proving it to you.

  6. david

    This can be applied to everyone in life.

    “indirectness is the calling card of self-interest.”

    If she can’t directly approach you, tell you how she feels and be completely open and honest about her life…..take to the higher ground, young man.

  7. dislocatedman

    This is great. I have some young men I work with who need to see this. The frustration these men have in finding an emotionally adult young woman to date is intense and confusing. This will certainly give them a clear understanding of where the boundaries are.

  8. SineNomine

    What a phenomenal load of bollocks. Dr. T has already ably Fisked this article, so I don’t have a lot to add. One thing that struck a chord with me (well, a lot of this struck a chord with me) was in the remarks to number 18:

    This is another example of a double standard and a double bind. Women complain when men “don’t express emotion” or aren’t “in touch with their emotions” and then freak out when men actually express their emotions and/or become angry if men express emotions that differ from their emotions.

    This is a pervasive and particularly cruel double-standard that women maintain. I don’t call it a double-bind, though, I call it getting whipsawed. This is especially the case when a man expresses feelings that are not directly in synch with what the woman is feeling. She’s upset with you because of X, you’re angry with her because of Y, but if you tell her about Y she’ll completely lose it because it’s not X. A few weeks after that blows over, she’ll start complaining that you don’t communicate enough and need to see a therapist.

  9. SineNomine

    My advice to sons can be summed up, a bit crudely, in the following three statements:

    1. Find your balls.
    2. Keep your balls, no matter what.
    3. See steps 1 and 2.

  10. agarya

    I chuckled and cringed as I read this article. Before I had children I had all the answers on relationships. I remember attending a parenting class and thinking “this is all so obvious and easy – who needs a class?” Boy, was I naive and arrogant! When I was her age I thought I had all the answers to life, though I didn’t have the gall to actually author a book as a supposed expert.

    Treating a woman like she is special and loved is a good thing. So is chivalry. But the danger is that it goes too far, and her thoughts provide insight that she stepping over the line. She will either find the man of her dreams who will be able to meet all of her needs or she is setting herself up for a miserable life. I truly hope she finds the man who lives up to all of her expectations, but I also hope she will laugh off the small things that don’t really matter, and that she takes ownership of her own issues when conflict arises, as they always do. I fear, however, from the tone of her writing that she may take on the “Queen Bee” mentality and rule with an iron fist, prejudiced of course through my own experience.

    Now approaching 49 years of age, I am beginning to see a few patterns in my behavior and in my ex-wife’s behavior that led to an unbalanced, unhealthy relationship that eventually became too complex to unravel through counseling. I intend to teach my teen son about how to treat a woman with respect while being on the lookout for unhealthy expectations from a woman. A balanced approach will benefit he and his future wife more than so-called expert advice from non-experts.

    • Dr Tara J. Palmatier

      Why aren’t we teaching children to respect others, period? Respect women. Respect women. Respect women. Respect women. Respect women. Squawk! Polly wanna cracker? So tired of the broken record.

      Respect is earned. Yes, some authority figures should receive automatic respect—a coach a teacher, the police, your parents—until they demonstrate that they’re not to be trusted. For example, abusing their authority would lead to withdrawal of respect.

      How about teaching children to respect women and men equally if they are deserving of respect because of their actions and the way they conduct themselves? Sorry, but “I have a uterus!” is not enough reason for me to grant someone unconditional, automatic respect. Respect should be merit-based, not sex organs based.

      I never bought into the whole “women are goddesses” nonsense that sprouted in the 1990s.

      • JPJ

        Wow,this one answered a few questions for me.It is not okay for your girlfriend/wife to yell and scream at you in public.Then use the excuse that,”you need to be yelled at in order for you to do anything.”
        Also,it is easy for an abuser to turn a man into a manservant/slave very easily.This article also points that out as well.
        #2 is a bit of a mystery.
        And yes,I am getting a little sick of hearing all about all the Women’s shelters and the need for all types of support.This just continues to beef up the view that all men are bad/women are good mantra.
        There does need to be an equal playing field created and that is where you are the groundbreaker Dr Tara!!
        Keep up the amazing work…please.

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