31 Responses to “How to Isolate your Boyfriend: Relationship Self-Help Reaches New Low on wikiHow”

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  1. YourDogsAllWet

    I had a feeling this was a load of horse-hockey. My ex-wife did it in two or three steps.

  2. TheGirlInside

    Jesus H.C.~ Don’t scare me like that!

    It makes me wonder, though, how many women actually DO think it out like that. Whoever wrote that obviously has had some very intimate time with a ‘woman’ like that.

    Cripes…it’s as bad as a ‘pretend / gag’ How-To on how to molest your neighbor’s child/ren or How to terrorize small-town USA. Yikes!

    Not funny in the least.

  3. Nick55

    By the time a girl is old enough to read this on the Internet, she probably has a PhD in Manipulation.

  4. Mellaril

    Don’t underestimate the power of pop culture. When I was in graduate school, one of my classmates was being chased by a young woman in class. He wasn’t really interested but she was fairly persistent. One time he remarked he couldn’t understand where she was coming from as she seemed to shift tactics from week to week. This was in the late 90s when “Ally McBeal” was very popular. People in class talked about it so I started watching the show. What was happening was this girl was taking her romance cues from Ally’s latest episode. I kid you not. I pointed this out to him and he started watching the show, too.

    A few weeks late he says to me, “I thought you were crazy but you were right.”

  5. Cousin Dave

    A couple of paragraphs in, I was certain that this was satire. Then I read some more and I’m not so sure. The author describes the steps so precisely. And then there’s that odd qualifying statement at the end, which comes across as being the exact sort of abrupt psychological shift that BPDs are noted for. If it’s satire, either it’s too subtle for me, or it’s written by someone who doesn’t know how to write satire. I didn’t find it humorous; I found it scary.

  6. “Phew! It’s a gag.”

    I couldn’t disagree more. If a person is manipulative enough to formulate this manipulative “how to” then they are manipulative enough to mockingly write something like, oh by the way, this is horrible don’t do it. And then snicker to her self as she submits it, knowing that it will protect the sacred tactic from being deleted.

    • Dr Tara J. Palmatier

      I still find this how-to disconcerting. I felt some relief reading the last bullet point, however, I agree, it’s still a very disturbing piece. Particularly because this is how isolation occurs in many cases.

      • D

        Yeah the gag thing seems a bit deadpan, to be charitable.

        Kind of like putting a training guide online for, fill in the blank: murder, rape, paedophilia, home invasion and summary execution, etc … then after describing it in accurate and sickening detail, plopping an “lol” at the end.

        • Cousin Dave

          Yes, the article itself strikes me as an example of what NPD/BPDs consider humor: a bunch of degrading and insulting behavior, followed by, “Hey, it was only a joke! Can’t you take a joke?”

    • Yes – but worse still – it’s not ONE author, and they aren’t even ALL female. There are men on there teaching women how to do this to their boyfriend.
      “This page was last modified 22:18, 27 November 2010 by wikiHow user Oscuro1987. Based on work by Sara, Travis Derouin, Rob S, Tom Viren, Maluniu, BR, Zack and Harri, wikiHow user(s) Flickety, Six Degrees, Knowledge Junkie, WikiWarrior, Catspjs01 and Oscuro1987 and Anonymous.”

      It was last modified by Oscuro – who is actually named Emmanuel — which is a guy – not a female.

      He also wrote an article on Prentending to faint. He seems to be quite the con artist (or at least wants people to think he is.)

      I just can’t fathom for the life of me why a man would want to help teach a woman to manipulate a man.

  7. knotheadusc

    These are the same tactics a lot of women use to alienate children from their fathers, too. It’s sickening.

  8. Jim

    Frankly this article is child’s play compared to what I’ve endured. My last girlfriend did much, much more. She subtly, over the years, would say things like, “Your my strongest weakness,” inherently implying I was a bad guy that she had pity or something on. Always started fights with accusations and suspicions, never stopped. And silly me, never walked, on the contrary, I would defend myself of her accusations and suspicions. She always walked around with her nose in the air in reference to almost everyone I knew. I couldn’t talk to a female without her feeling and acting like I was doing something wrong. When I would tell her I can’t talk to a female around her, she adamantly denied and made me feel like I had to question myself, to the point I stopped conversation with females in her presence. like I was the one doing something wrong. Then when she stepped out, it was my fault, I drove her to it. Funny thing, it was her decision. She knew, it was catching up to me and her. I’d gotten to the point, I wanted to break up with her simultaneously I loved her. So when she stepped out, I was the one trying to get her back. Someone finally put it right when I asked, “How do you think I can get back with her?” They said, “Why Jim, she just made you miserable when you were with her.” It took a long time for that to sink in. I’m so glad she’s gone and I was the one that felt so bad that I thought I was the bad guy. How do I know the difference now? I looked back at my actions, I didn’t cheat, start fights, cause trouble outside of defending myself in fights where I would finally tell her to leave my apartment because she was a trouble maker. And so the contempt built on both sides from then on.

  9. Freedom

    I think the most accurate part of this is that some people really are like that. they say they’re falling so deeply in love with you, that you’re the perfect person for them… then they change pieces and parts about you, push you to be this way, pull you to be that way. and in the end they’ll say “golly… you’re just not the person i fell in love with”.

    gee… i wonder why…

    like many, i thought the article HAD to be satire because some parts are so blatantly childish with the instructions. then i thought to myself, “yikes! if the person didn’t see thru the obvious, this is crazy enough to work”.

    and i have to admit that there were times when i ignored the obvious.

    perhaps the mark of dark humor is that its funny enough to elicit a chuckle, yet true enough to chill your bones.

  10. gwallan

    I added a response which was deleted within five minutes!

    I will leave it here for posterity…

    I am an advocate for victims and survivors of abuse and a board member with a crisis and counselling service in my state.

    It astonishes me that this piece was ever permitted to remain. It is a training manual for abusers. It is no joke. There are no lines to read between. It is vile in the extreme. I would point out also that many of the behaviours suggested are identical to the grooming tactics used by paedophiles.

    The normal experience for male victims – even boys – of female abusers is to be mocked and ridiculed. This fits the pattern to perfection.

    To all those viewing it as a joke SHAME ON YOU. To the owners/moderators of this site GET RID OF IT.

    • Dr Tara J. Palmatier

      Hi gwallan,

      Actually, I only had the above comment from you in my moderation queue. Nothing was deleted. The “How to Isolate your Boyfriend” piece was not written by me or anyone affiliated with Shrink4Men. I posted it to show how despicable this kind of behavior is. I even stated that even though the author(s) of the original post seem to be trying to be funny—or is it an attempt at satire—it is still unsettling and in bad taste.

      Kind Regards,
      Dr Tara

      • gwallan

        I was referring to a post I left on the wikiHow site. I reproduced it here because of their censorship. Sorry about the confusion.

        I’m not joking when I said it was removed within minutes. I will be attempting to communicate with wikiHow via other means.

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