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  1. kiwihelen

    Here is a slight variation on the car thing…forgive me if I can talk car talk better than most women…because I like men I have picked up the lingo and a bit of an appreciation for the finer points of autos…but I promise you I can do most of the maintenance myself, so does that give me a get out jail free card?

    • Dr Tara J. Palmatier

      I think so, Helen;^D. There are almost always exceptions to every rule.

      These are some signs of the overt Gold Diggers, although, there are some men out there, gawd love ‘em, who miss the overt signs. As I read MB’s article, I was reminded of many of the female characters or, rather, caricatures, on the reality series, The Bachelor.

      Maybe MB will consider another article on the more stealth and far more dangerous Gold Diggers (hint, hint).

      • TheGirlInside

        I have always considered guys with hot cars askew…figured that they were using cars to get chicks because of something they were lacking in their personality.

        Don’t get me wrong…I do love’s me a testoter-iffic pick-up truck (guess it’s true: “There’s something women like about a pick-up man”), but a decked out Trans Am with golden eagle painted on the hood and matching gold rims??? uh…nope.

        • Mellaril

          After Hoover1, I went NC, went on a cruise and bought a new 300ZX Turbo. On Hoover2, my exgf saw it and asked, “What’s this?”

          My response, “The down payment on what would have been our house.”

        • Dr Tara J. Palmatier

          Cars never did it for me. Although, I do like those vintage roadsters from the 1920s and 1930s. Don’t think they go very fast, though.

          Competence, intelligence, kindness, sense of humor, some physical attraction and how comfortable I feel around someone are what I looked for when I was dating.

          There’s a line from the film Sex, Lies & Videotape that goes something like, “Men fall in love with women they find attractive. Women become more and more attracted to the men they love,” or something like that. I don’t know if this is true in every case, but it makes sense for me in many instances.

        • ttk

          I’m not sure I completely agree. In my opinion, most people who are interested in cars are not vain or gold diggers, they’re just normal people who happen to be interested in cars. What sets them apart from the GDs and hot-chick-magnet-wannabes is why they’re interested in cars. The vain ones will be interested only in how the car looks / makes them look. They’ll have/admire the custom decals, ridiculous rims and loud exhaust pipe… but they won’t have put any effort into their car’s technical specs. The people who just enjoy nice cars will know how to appreciate the technical aspect, not just the visual one.

          Of course, I have to admit, I love fast cars so I may be biased here. I’d also add one more caveat: the younger the person interested in the car is, the more likely it is that they’ll fit the gold digger / chick-magnet-wannabe stereotype. They either outgrow it at a later point in life, or drop out of the car scene once they don’t look as good as their car anymore.

  2. Mellaril

    While I agree with everything you said, this article may carry some unintended consequences. While it’s very helpful for us to use to identify them, it’s equally beneficial to someone in learning how to mask red flags.

    With a few tweaks, it could easily be on HuffPost or Cosmo as “Playing it Cool, Simple Things You Can Do to Not Tip Him Off.”

    Real womem enjoy simple things – “Unless you’re clubbing with your BFFs, don’t let him see the Jimmy Choos. Keep them tucked away until you really need them.”

    Get the alibi ready early – “He’s not stupid (usually). If you’re driving a new Mercedes with no visble means of support, anticipate the question. Better three dead aunts than one screwed ex-husband.”

    Great work!

    • Dr Tara J. Palmatier

      Hi Mellaril,

      Thanks for hanging out last night in the chat room. I was delighted to see you there!

      I’m sure there are already articles like the one you describe out there and probably in every month’s issue of Cosmopolitan rag-a-zine.

      Predators are, well, predatory and some are cagier than others.

    • Micksbabe

      Trust me, that manual was written long before I wrote this article. The HPD doesn’t need any pointers on how to be manipulative. They come by it naturally.

      • Mellaril

        No doubt but don’t underestimate the power of popular culture to influence people.

        When I was in grad school, one of the young women in the class was making a run at one of the guys in the class. One night over beer, he was telling us about her latest effort. He said he couldn’t figure out where on earth she was coming from. He said she never operated the same way twice. Class was on Tuesday evenings. In the previous night’s episode of “Ally McBeal,” she had tried the same thing on her current target. She was taking her relationship tips from the TV show. She tried three or four things she got from the show on him over the semester.

        It didn’t work any better for her than it did for Ally.

  3. B Experienced

    Other indicators of someone being shallow is how a person views a person with some form of physical imperfection or disability. Cluster B woman usually require someone of their “standard” which is of course near perfection.
    I knew a BPD years ago who met the nicest guy. When he picked up his drink, I noticed that his baby finger was missing. The BPD promptly got away after seeing it and claimed that there was no way that she would go out with him yet alone touch his hand. As a matter of fact, she said if a man started to bald she would divorce him. I was blown away.
    I know of an NPD woman who will not date a man if they are over weight at all or doesn’t have at least a Bachelor’s Degree. This woman claimed that she too would divorce someone if they became disabled. Yet, she is a wrinkled prune and has impaired herself with her narcissism.
    Style over substance is really what you are looking for in any area. They are just pigs with lipstick on.

    • Dr Tara J. Palmatier

      Wow, BE. They both sound like nasty pieces of work.

      • B Experienced

        That is mild compared to what the first one did. I went to High School with her. She was originally diagnosed as Bipolar I. I didn’t have any education in the field right after high school. However, there was always something dark about her. She ended up dating a married man. She had an argument with him and slashed up the stuffed animals he gave her. Then she jumped in her car and started driving around. She saw an old boyfriend and tried to kill him by pinning him up against a restaurant wall. She pulled out of there and then drove to the airport down the street and parked her car. She got out, threw herself on the ground and screamed, kill me. I would have locked her up, but her shrink didn’t. After that episode, she told me that when she was in grade school she wanted nothing more than a girl who liked her boyfriend to be run over by a train. It was chilling. I heard she is married to a man who provides her with a very high standard of living. He sounds like he has narcissistic traits.
        The second one was a trip. She sat on my porch without my permission smoking a cigarette while watching the men cut down a tree that just about killed someone because a large limb fell off. She said it would look stupid without the trees (style over substance) yet a car got totaled, and the man got away in the nick of time so he wasn’t hurt. She told me that it was a great crime against humanity because the power got shut off and she couldn’t have a hot lunch. I burst out laughing and said that the Holocaust was a great crime against humanity and not your cold cereal for lunch. She said very seriously she didn’t agree. She got so agitated that she stood in front of the one machine screaming for them to stop because she was missing her radio show as well. I really thought they would send for the men in white suits after that one.

      • Ron On Drums

        This reminds me of a funny but sad story. A friend of mine who went to Baptist Seminary was Pastor at a small church while attending school. A couple comes in for premarital counseling before the wedding when the woman announced that she wanted traditional vows but wanted to leave out the “in sickness & in health” part of them.

        When questioned by my friend as to why she said “Because I am not marrying him to play nurse maid if he gets sick”. She was actually dead serious. My friend warned the guy not to marry her unless they did intense premarital therapy & he refused to perform the ceremony.

        Of course the poor sap didn’t listen as he was “in LOVE” & said she didn’t mean it. They got married by a JOP. Apparently though this woman didn’t think much of the “Foresaking all others” part either. The guy got laid off of his job & a month latter she went & had an affair with a guy who drove a BMW & ran off with the guy in less than a week.

        Karma though has such a wonderful side. He dumped her a year latter & got a new trophy wife. :-)

        • B Experienced

          I will bet that she expected him to take care of her when she was sick. Some people are stunned by what my father used to say about picking a mate for marriage. It really makes sense to me though. He was a medic in WWII (the big one!) so I knew where he was coming from. He said that you should picture the guy with his legs off and if you can say that you still love him and stick with him then marry him. If you haven’t got the goods than don’t get married because it isn’t for you. The second one that I mentioned above actually asked me how I could stay with my husband because he gained a lot of weight after a knee replacement. My answer was that she should have seen me when I was pregnant. I was like the actor Tim in the move Santa Claus. I kept growing and growing. I think I rolled into the hospital to deliver. I went from a size 10 to a 20.

  4. SSG

    Good article, but disgusting that people even have to think about this kind of thing. My husband once had a woman approach him at work about his (then new)sports car: She asked him when he was going to give her a ride in it and if she could “drive his stick-shift.” Appealing, huh? He ran into the next open elevator.

  5. tenquilts

    Here’s an irony – when I got back in touch with my boyfriend after we had been out of touch for 20 years since our college days, and we began to explore our romantic feelings for each other, we ended up having an argument over my reaction to learning how much money he made. But it wasn’t that it wasn’t enough for me … it was that it was SO much more than I earned, and I felt somehow like it made us unevenly matched. I was afraid that I couldn’t put my equal half into all we might do in our future, including dinners out, vacations, and home purchases. What we’ve decided to do, rather than go halfsies, is put in percentages equal to what we earn … but I still feel a little uncomfortable that I have a better standard of living than I could afford without his salary. Like a “kept woman.” Although were the situation reversed and *I* the executive, I wouldn’t think twice about it.

    His ex, however, is rather lavishly outspending her alimony and child support and racking up some big debt. I do wonder, when she dates, if guys ask her how she lives so well when she works only two days a week in a low-paying job. Considering she doesn’t seem to have too many ongoing relationships, maybe they can all do math and realize they don’t want to be her next “sustainable source of income.”

  6. markc352

    I enjoy reading this. Thank you ladies soooo much for you work. :)

  7. Arch

    Driving a nice car is a great way to screen out awful women.

    The gold diggers try to ply your ego by cooing over your wheels. They generally seem to assume the car is part of your ego structure and a quick way in to ingratiating themselves with you.

    The shallow ones will assume you’re driving a nice car because you lack “something” mental or perhaps physical and are compensating. They’re the ones with the 463 bullet point checklist who will ruthlessly attempt to find fault with you and inevitably do.

    • Dr Tara J. Palmatier

      Hi Arch,

      I think if anyone is cooing over your possessions, it’s likely that they’re more interested in your possessions than you.

      We all have our biases. I used to find cars with shiny red sports cars, well, not to be my cup of tea. Like MB, I thought, “Oh my, the car is skank bait.” But you could say the same thing about BMW sedans and Lexuses (or is it “Lexi”?)

      Then I actually spent some time getting to know a few guys who had the shiny red vettes. Yep, they attract some dubious ladies, but for these men, their cars were their childhood dream cars — I think like some girls love horses.

      Of course, I’ve known a few guys with shiny sports cars who deliberately use them as bait. They weren’t for me, so I went on my merry way.

      I guess my point is that you can’t always judge a book by its cover. Sometimes you have to actually open the book and read a paragraph or two or maybe even a whole chapter.

  8. parmo1

    Dr T, isn’t the problem that the gold diggers are always the sexy attractive women that all men want. Otherwise they would not get away with all that greed.

    The “real ladies” tend to be the dowdy women who are not so sexy. They are nice but dull and plain, just an observation

    Martin

    • Micksbabe

      Being attractive is definitely a weapon for the Gold Digger. But that’s not to say that all attractive women are Gold Diggers. That’s like saying that all attractive men are philanderers. Both are easier to accomplish for attractive people. But certainly not a requirement.

    • Arch

      Gold diggers are definitely not limited to attractive women. They just tend to be the most successful at it.

      Gold diggers come in all shapes and sizes and modus operandi. Some women demand gifts and special treatment during the dating process and others wait until marriage-entrapment before demanding access to “our” bank accounts…or else.

      I’ll never forget something my first serious girlfriend said to me after just over 6 years together. “I can’t believe you still think of this as YOUR stuff!” The relationship didn’t last too much longer after her entitlement mentality went into full blossom.

      And, no, she wasn’t even close to underwear model-esque in any fashion. Entitlement mentality is impugned upon women in Western culture and does not discriminate by looks. The only defense against it is good parenting and that has been severely lacking for 50 years now.

    • CharlieB

      Way off. They most interesting, sexiest, most fun women are not the gold-diggers. Nothing like a woman who is with you and not your wallet.

      • parmo1

        That is my experience anyway, gold diggers can only pull it off if they are attractive and charming.
        My main point is that if we follow all the advice here, we will be only get the ugly , unsexy women who are not interested in bettering themselves (at our expense), But forewarned is forearmed,
        Of course gold diggers and men who seek trophy wives complement each other, well until the woman reaches 50 anyway when she will be replaced with younger version.

    • Dr Tara J. Palmatier

      Hi Martin,

      Predators come in all shapes, sizes and colors. I’ve seen really unattractive women (on the inside and outside) who are able to ensnare men.

      I also know lots of beautiful, interesting, funny, smart, kind and STABLE women.

      If you have a pattern of being attracted to the Crazy, it’s probably the Crazy that gets your engine going and, if so, that’s something you need to change within yourself.

      Many of the men I work with had opportunities to date beautiful and kind women, but pushed them away because they weren’t feeling “it.” The “it” being the Crazy and the prospect of getting a better outcome with Crazy if they just “tried harder.”

      • parmo1

        Dr T, i have another point i would like to ask you, don’t some men NEED to have a lesson from women like this to make them more worldly wise, maybe these women are ACTUALLY helping men ?

        Your site helps immensely, of course, but ultimately the best lesson is experience. Yes in a world where men are faced with divorce and government clawbacks by “child support” and “alimony”, 1 bad mistake and a man’s life is devastated , but on a personqal level men are toughened up by these women, i think

        Martin

    • alreadylost

      “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” as is often said. Keep in mind Martin that the flower of youth fades quickly even with all the cosmetic fixes available today. One of the real problems with our standard of physical beauty is the retouching that every photograph in every magazine receives before it goes to print. Society promotes that to be beautiful you must be flawless. In my experience most of those “pretty” types to which you refer are not so pretty without all the makeup and the hours spent ” putting on the war paint”. The “real ladies” to which you refer as dowdy and plain usually have enough self esteem that they don’t need to spend hours putting on a false face. When they do get “all dolled up” they are just as pretty as most of the GDs you think are sexy and attractive. check out the paparazzi photos that occasionally catch the movie stars without makeup. Most of them don’t look nearly as pretty as they do on the silver screen. I will leave you with one last bit of wisdom gleaned from my grandmother. She once pointed out that “all cats are grey in the dark”

      • parmo1

        “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder”, but i always remember a poll from the 90s where over 70% of men thought Pamela Anderson to be the sexiest woman in the world.
        Regarding cats in the dark, cats that think/know they are the sexiest cat will be more “feeline” in the dark no matter HOW greay they are ;-)

  9. StrawMan

    Comming from a family with substantial wealth I was taught how spot a gold digger early on by my father. He told me as a young boy that they (GD females) “will look you up and down, first to size you up” he explained “your shoes are what she will focus on first, then your overall dress and deportment” – “if she thinks she has a live one, she will hit you with some glib flattery, then steer the conversation to your occupation, where you reside: like a job interview”. He was right, he also taught me to steer clear of any woman that could not clearly support herself..

    I wish he had told me about plain old crazy, predatory women too! He left that part out! :(

    Rolex watches are more for the nouveau riche & wannabes. Any seasoned gold digger is looking for a constellation of wealth / high starus signals. It’s easy to spot these tramps once you know thier M.O.

    • Dr Tara J. Palmatier

      Hi Strawman,

      All young men should be taught about crazy, predatory types. They don’t just want your gold; they want everything including your soul.

  10. Mellaril

    “It Don’t Mean a Thing (If You Ain’t Got that Bling)”

    What good’s intregrity, what good are smarts
    If you ain’t possessin’ a big balance sheet
    It ain’t about you, at your heart I’ll throw darts

    There’s something else that makes me complete
    It don’t mean a thing, if you ain’t got that bling
    It don’t mean a thing, if I don’t get the ring

    It makes no diff’rence if you’re sweet or not
    Just give me ev’rything that you’ve got
    It don’t mean a thing, if it ain’t got that bling

    - with apologies to Duke Ellington & Ella Fitzgerald

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